Hello gflclan.ru members,
I would like to get right to the point and let you all know that we are indeed merging back with our "parent" community, GFLclan.com. This actually has not been in the works for that long, but it is an important and surprising opportunity to rectify a past divisive action that had both good and bad consequences. If you don't care about the backstory, and you just want a quick summary and answers to questions you may have, jump to the section marked, F.A.Q.! To clarify, this merge will not be happening "immediately" it will be a slow and steady process. For more information directly from GFLclan.com, please refer to this post: https://gflclan.com/forums/topic/30293-announcement-the-return-of-css-ze/
For those of you who don't know, this community as you know it now which is composed of a few CS:S servers, but mainly Zombie Escapers at it's heart, was once a subset of the big daddy that is known as GFLclan.com (home to the CS:GO ZE server of the same name). We were once part of that community, but it was decided that we would try our odds at this offshoot community in hopes of alleviating some of the problems that arose there. Better than me going on about this, I will post an excerpt written by @juky who can better explain the whole situation, since he was one of the community members ultimately involved in the decision. There is an overall explanation that was written at the time of transition nearly 2 years ago, found here: https://forum.gflclan.ru/d/1-welcome
This is a direct copy-pasta from juky written recently to help explain the backstory of the transition with some included self-reflections at the end:
- management reached out to GFLclan.com community because of financial problems
- with botox fuckery access (or "upon closer inspection") we discovered <a considerable amount of> money had gone missing <over a period of 14 months>
- unsure how deep the corruption ran/who was involved (had a guarantee on soja cause order to address)
- "Whichever way this turns out, know that our intentions are to continuously preserve and improve CSS Zombie Escape as a gamemode with an as high as possible QoL. The issues GFL faces as an organization are second to this, ZE is and has always been the main priority."
- botox wanted to move the server, the money situation was just a golden opportunity
EXCERPT FROM "server split memento" (aka an analysis of the split from Juky's pov):
"I want to preface this by stating I consider this a pretty major event in my personal life, and I've treated it as such. I've talked to a decently large amount of people about the whole situation, from inside GFL as well as outside, online as well as IRL. This text should be largely complete and an elaborate representation of the debacle FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, but first and foremost serves as a way to help me structure my thoughts and make peace with it all.
An attempt at an objective, agreeable recap of the situation in a nutshell:
In April 2016 BotoX and I moved CS:S ZE away from GFLclan.com. The idea first arose when management reached out to the community facing financial problems. At the time security was lackluster and, using some 'crafty mechanics', anyone with ftp could query the SQL as root (and access the PayPal API key stored in plaintext). Having access to the API key is the equivalent of full access to the PayPal, and allowed us to request a bunch of information.
Over the period of at least 14 months, a sure but steady stream of money had gone missing, with no definitive way of telling who was(n't) on the receiving end, save for one order going directly to SoJa's address.
Some variables worth taking into account:
- at the time Roy was making a push towards monetizing GFL https://puu.sh/AUXon/4a59867b12.png
- there was a sense of apathy with the people involved in the technical side of things for an extended period of time, which admittedly I was partially to blame for. (willing to elaborate if requested)
- lack of technically inclined staff
As implied but not directly stated in the summary above, with the data we had, I couldn't confirm or refute Roy's involvement. I talked to Roy multiple times leading up to the split, trying to figure out if he was genuinely ignorant (over malicious). Prompting him to check the numbers, numerous times, each time more aggressive than the last, to no avail. (to great frustration of people at the other side)
It got to the point where I felt it was sane to assume Roy's involvement. This wasn't the first time it was brought up either, we had close to 8k ( https://web.archive.org/web/20150309064125/http://gflclan.com:80/index.html or https://puu.sh/AUXqy/f4de23f23a.png ) in the bank at some point, but I digress.
As I saw it then: "there is no GFL without Roy, and there is no reality in which Roy can stay in GFL". The make-up GFL was a very intricate structure where Roy, and him as a vulnerable entity played a central role.
While this is all relevant information that I felt needed to be included, this is not why I'm writing this text.
With that out of the way, I'm going to start off with the first and ultimately fatal mistake. I chose to not bring up my findings with the then council in our weekly meetings. My original reasoning was that it could not have changed the outcome, which was (even then) objectively the selfish choice. I had decided that it was over, and rather than to let it shatter and pick up the pieces afterwards like everyone else, I was going to use my position of privilege to safeguard part of my work.
A couple of things happened here:
- I put myself in the position of judge, jury and executioner
- I used valuable inside information at the expense of others
- I betrayed council, some (given my relationship with them) on a personal level
The first one is classic narcissism, but the latter are instances of a conscious decision to do evil. My definition evil being "producing suffering where suffering is not needed". The solution lies in the problem here, in the most classical sense. "Do I care to be a good person? Or generally do I care to strive to not do evil?" became central as I've been trying piece things together.
Mistake number two came in the form of action as opposed to inaction, which was the theft of the CS:S ZE server.
While I understood that the server legally wasn't mine, morally I had no problems moving the server. I justified it to myself through morally disengaging myself from reality. There is a baseline set of truths and ethical standards you cannot bypass: stealing is bad, violence is wrong, etc. By morally disengaging myself I deluded myself into believing these truths and standards did not apply to me because of context X (read: vigilantism). Which for the record is not an excuse, it was a rhetorical failure."
As you can all see, it was a tough situation, but what is done is done. Anyways, it is now time to move on and hope that we can repair the relations that we damaged. The admin team discussed this and we went over all of our concerns. The head admin team has also been going over the merge very closely. We have gotten basically all of the main things that we wanted and we are not giving up much. For most of you, life will go on as normal. You will still have your server with your friends and it will probably be more reliable and in a better location. The overall .com community will not interfere with us at all (they have been specifically instructed by Roy). Of course, some of their members or old time players who didn't agree with the merge may come back or visit the server. We shouldn't see them as foreign invaders. Rather invite them in and show them we are nice people. We just did what we had to do to survive for the last 2 years.
Who will be in charge?
- The same admin team as now. Due to ".com" security/hierarchy limitations, the "official" head admins who will be server managers there will be Backy and Dogan. Soft Serve and Vanya will retain all decision-level privileges but will likely receive some other title "officially". xen is still away so his role is yet undecided. All admins we currently have will transfer over unless we have promotions/demotions before the merge happens. We also don't know about developers and techs yet as well as specific FTP access and such.
How will decisions be made?
- We will continue our current system of trying our best to receive input from all admins and polling the community before permanently adding new features or making major changes. Nothing will change in this aspect, regardless of the "official" titles or hierarchy.
What about global admins from .com or other higher ranked members interfering?
- This will not be an issue, like was stated above. They want our server back and they understand that we do things a little bit differently. There will be transition periods and some slight over-sight and such, but overall we are gonna keep doing what we do and have the final say.
What about discord and our website?
- We will obviously transition away from this website and invade their neck of the woods under the CS:S section of their forums. This should be a more refined and/or active forum with a more tightly-knit feeling of community. We will keep control over our discord for a period of our discretion. Once we feel comfortable with the merge, we will give certain high ranking members in .com (possibly only Roy) access on our discord. We will still run it as we like and everything will stay the same, no worries!
- To get your discord roles, you will have to log in to your account on the .com forums and link your discord account (at least for the main .com discord server, not sure what will happen to ours in the future). People are friendly in there, don't be scared to ask!
What about VIP and donations?
- Anyone who had permanent VIP in the old community will still have it. That will be a benefit to you, because we will be sharing the donation system. So if you are a permanent VIP, you will no longer have to pay the monthly cost here or try so hard at events If you don't have the permanent VIP, then you will likely pay a similar figure than what you are here (maybe a bit more), but you will get global access to all GFLclan.com servers! A nice perk from being a part of a larger community.
- For more information regarding donations, please visit: https://gflclan.com/donate/
- To get your VIP back as a permanent VIP, then please make a forum account or log into your old one, and visit this page here: https://gflclan.com/forums/topic/370-getting-your-vip-and-supporter-back/ You may also be able to just log in to your .com account and link your Steam account there and it may work (should link it either way).
- As for VIPs in this (gflclan.ru) community, everyone's subscriptions will be transferred over to gflclan.com, so current VIPs don't have to worry! Further details of this transfer are in discussion.
What about server specific rules?
- Our server rules will stay largely untouched, as well as how punishments are carried out. This was an important demand from us which was agreed upon.
- At this point, we have no plans to get rid of torchlight, but we will have to see what botox wants to do with regards to development. Also, be aware that .com runs a tighter ship with regards to things that have access to their servers, so we will keep an eye on this.
No-Steam, General settings, & Admin Expectations?
- We are putting up a poll to get your final input on these vital things that affect our server on a daily basis. It will be your chance to speak up so that we can make adjustments before the merge. It is better to get a good idea of what we want now to be able to start this new chapter off on the right foot. You will be more than welcome to share your opinions on the poll discussion and let us know how we did, but please remember that we are all human and that everyone's opinion and preferences will be slightly different. The goal in the end is to have a fun server where we can all interact and enjoy this mod together regardless of the details.
Juky, Shini, & Botox...
- This is still being discussed with the administration of .com. At this time, they will unfortunately not be allowed back in the community, but this is a point that we will possibly contest now or in the future (not necessarily as a community demand though).